Managing Disc Bulge: Effective Strategies for Pain Relief
Do you have a disc bulge that is causing you incredible pain in your lower back?
Does your disc bulge give you sciatica or pain down your leg?
Have you wondered what’s going on in your lower back to cause all this pain?
In this issue of Bodi Empowerment, I go over what’s going on with your disc bulge, the cause of your pain and what kind of treatments are best for you. In other words, I act as a guide to help you decide what to do.
Disc herniations, or disc bulges occur when the disc that is found between vertebrae in the spine is damaged. Most of the time the damage occurs in stages.
Here are the four stages of a disc herniation or disc bulge:
- Disc Bulge
- Disc Prolapse
- Disc Extrusion
- Disc Sequestration
Think of the disc as a flat hard onion with strawberry jelly inside. The jelly is the nucleus while the onion layers form circular layers of hard cartilage called the annulus.
Disc Bulge
If you were to damage the annulus (onion) enough the disc gets to a point that when you bend forward, you pinch the front of the onion so it starts to bulge the onion at the back by pushing the nucleus (jelly) backwards.
This is called a disc bulge. For most of you, there is no pain but for some of you, there can be considerable lower back pain and even sciatica from this small disc bulge.
Disc Protrusion
A disc protrusion is like a disc bulge that comes out even more in one focused spot. The disc pushes out as if you had your finger inside a balloon and pushed out.
Most of the layers of the onion (annulus) have been damaged but the jelly (nucleus) is under considerable pressure. The jelly (nucleus) squeezes through the layers of the annulus (onion) with the few intact layers of the onion (annulus) and the PLL (posterior longitudinal ligament) holding the jelly from spilling out. The disc is still contained by the annulus and PLL ligament. ie the balloon hasn’t popped.
Disc Protrusions usually cause quite a bit of lower back pain and often times sciatica. Many of you, with disc protrusions, on the other hand, have absolutely no pain. There is no clear reason. A study found that 40% of people with no pain whatsoever had disc protrusion confirmed by MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging Machine) [1]
The trick is not to let your doctor diagnose you based on just an MRI. An MRI that shows a disc protrusion by itself is not a diagnosis. It’s what a normal person with no pain can have. Make sure there is other evidence!
Disc Extrusion
Disc Extrusion is a disc bulge so large that it breaks through the last layers of the onion (annulus) and the PLL ligament pushing into the area of the spinal cord. ie. The balloon has popped. If you have an extrusion you likely have a tremendous amount of pain leg pain and usually some lower back pain.
Surprisingly when a group of normal people with no pain were scanned with an MRI 18% were found to have disc extrusions (severe disc herniations). [1]
When you have a disc extrusion chances are the extrusion is likely causing your pain as it’s so large.
Disc Sequestration
Disc sequestration occurs when a piece of your jelly (nucleus) that breaks through the onion (annulus) and the PLL ligament has now broken off and moved away further into the spinal cord area. When you have a disc sequestration you have a tremendous amount of leg pain and some lower back pain.
Smaller Is Better: Disc Bulge
Disc Herniations or slipped discs are better if they are smaller, right? You will have less pain right? Yes except when they give you pain. Remember all those normal people with no pain with all kinds of slipped discs? They had disc bulges, disc protrusions, and disc extrusions and even disc sequestrations with no pain.
On the other hand, even with a small disc bulge, you can get a lot of pain and even sciatica with no pressure on the nerve. So smaller isn’t always better.
Bigger Is Better: Disc Bulge
Sometimes bigger is better. Most people like you with disc extrusion and sequestration have lots of pain. The fact is these painful extrusions while more painful usually shrink with time. It takes about a year but with the shrinking of the herniations, the pain does decrease.[2-5]
Disc Herniation: Disc Bulge Treatment
#1 Stop Aggravating Yourself
Half the problem why people don’t get better is that they continually aggravate their lower back and their slipped discs. Learning to lift properly, sit properly and even stand over the sink while brushing your teeth properly can help you avoid the pain.
Even Yoga exercises such as the downward dog can aggravate the lower back, Pilates and even your basic abdominal crunch have been shown by Dr Stuart McGill to increase the pressure in the disc beyond its safe limit.
If you want to find out how to stop aggravating your lower back, click the link below.
See Also: Slipped Discs: Best Self-Treatments To Help Your Lumbar Disc Herniation
#2 Exercise For Disc Herniations / Slipped Discs
For complete instructions on exercises for slipped discs click the link. Best Exercises For Your Slipped Disc
#3 Chiropractic Adjustments For Disc Bulge
A major research paper showed that people who have had lumbar disc herniations who have failed at least 3 months of medical management, including treatment with analgesics, lifestyle modification, physiotherapy, massage therapy, and/or acupuncture, should consider chiropractic spinal manipulative treatment, followed by surgery if unsuccessful. [6]
I would also add that I would try 3 different chiropractors as the competency level varies from person to person. Like any profession including medical doctors and physiotherapists, there are the good ones and bad ones.
See also: 6 Things You Should Look For In A Chiropractic Clinic
#4 Acupuncture For Disc Bulge
Acupuncture is helpful for Slipped Discs in the neck and the lower back.[7-8]
#5 Injections
In a study of two different groups getting treatment for lumbar disc herniations, the group getting chiropractic manipulation had 76.5% of the people improve while the group getting the nerve root injections improved by 62.7%.
After a month, the chiropractic spinal manipulation group had a 60% reduction in pain compared to the nerve root injection group, which had a 53% decrease in pain. Keep in mind the nerve root injection group seemed to be worse to start with compared to the spinal manipulation group.
See Also: Chiropractic Spinal Manipulation Vs. Nerve Root Injections for Lumbar Disc Herniations
Epidural injections are also helpful for lower back pain and the radiating pain down your leg.[8]
#6 Surgery
#1 Discectomy
There are two types of surgery available for slipped discs. Discectomy and spinal fusion. This surgery involves cutting out the piece of the disc that is protruding out and pushing on the spinal cord or nerve.
Discectomy is relatively simple compared to spinal fusion. You have a much better chance of success with discectomy if your MRI shows that your disc herniation is greater than 7 mm thick and correlates well with your neurological exam and nerve conduction studies.[9] If your lower back pain is greater than your leg pain discectomy will not likely work very well for you.[10]
#2 Spinal Fusion
Spinal Fusion removes the disc herniation, jelly (nucleus), and most of the annulus (onion). Bone from the pelvis is then transplanted where your disc was so that the two vertebrae become one.
What Treatment Should You Do?
You should do at least 3 months of therapy when you have a slipped disc before even considering surgery or injections. Start by not aggravating your lumbar disc. You need to modify how you bend forward, lift and even pick up your socks.
See Also: Disc Herniation: Best Self-Treatments To Help Your Lumbar Disc Herniation
If you have trouble sleeping at night you can take painkillers to help you get a better sleep. Don’t stay in bed though. When you have excruciating pain you should only have bed rest for a maximum of two days total.
Next, try chiropractic or physiotherapy with someone who also does acupuncture. Make sure it’s not with somebody who knows how to do 20 acupuncture points. Be patient with them as disc herniations can be difficult to deal with.
Attend regularly 3 times a week for at least a month. Make sure they change the treatments to find what works best for you. If they keep doing the same thing each visit but you are improving that is fine, but if you aren’t improving then it’s time to find a new chiropractor.
If you don’t get any better after a month change to a different chiropractor. I recommend trying 3 different chiropractors as different chiropractors have different training.
If you plateaued or haven’t improved at all then it’s time to get a nerve root injection or an epidural injection. Make sure it’s with a person that does this every day. An emergency room doctor or family physician only does this procedure once in a while. It’s better to get someone more experienced.
When conservative care has been completely exhausted then it’s time to consider surgery. Discectomy is more conservative than spinal fusion and recovery is much quicker. You should consider discectomy surgery if you have :
- Foot drop that is getting worse.
- Any other neurological symptoms that is getting worse like your reflexes, sensitivity
- Bowel or Bladder Symptoms (loss of your poo and pee function). : This is an emergency you should go to the hospital right away.
- If you have a disc protrusion or that is 8 mm or larger that correlates well with a neurological exam, and Nerve conduction tests.
- Leg pain is worse than your lower back pain.
Beware of the surgeon who wants to operate on a small disc bulge. There are too many unnecessary surgeries in the USA especially spinal fusion.
Spinal fusion is considered when your lower back pain is worse than your leg pain
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Research
1. Weishaupt D et al. “MRI of the lumbar spine: Prevalence of intervertebral disc extrusion and sequestration, nerve root compression and plate abnormalities, and osteoarthritis of the fact joints in Asymptomatic Volunteers.” Radiology – 1998; 209:661-666
2. Maigne JY, Rime B, Delignet B. Computed tomographic follow-up of 48 cases of nonoperatively treated lumbar intervertebral disc herniation. Spine 1992; 17:1071-1074.
3. Ikeda T, et al. Pathomechanism of spontaneous regression of the herniated lumbar disc: histologic and immunohistochemical study. J Spinal Disord 1996;9:136-140.
4. Ahn SH, Ahn MW, Byun WM. Effect of transligamentous extension of lumbar disc herniations and their regression in the clinical outcome of sciatica. Spine 2000; 25:475-480.
5. Komori H, Shinomiya K, Nakai O, et al. The natural history of herniated nucleus pulposus with radiculopathy. Spine 1996; 21:225-229.
Research
6. McMorland G et al.Manipulation or microdiskectomy for sciatica? A prospective randomized clinical study. Journal of Manipulative & Physiological Therapeutics 2010; 33: 576-584.
7. Wu, Yao-chi, Jun-feng Zhang, Yi-jun Sun, Cheng-fei Huang, Ping Shao, and Gui-zhen Liu. “Clinical study on electroacupuncture for cervical intervertebral disc herniation.” Journal of Acupuncture and Tuina Science 11, no. 6 (2013): 371-374. – See more at: http://www.healthcmi.com/Acupuncture-Continuing-Education-News/1249-acupuncture-found-superior-to-drug-for-neck-disc-pain#sthash.vD0pNepM.dpuf
8. Wang HeshanNon-Surgical Therapy For Prolapse of Lumbar Intervertebral Disc. The Journal of Traditional Chinese Medicine
9. Parr AT, Diwan S, Abdi S. Lumbar interlaminar epidural injections in managing chronic low back pain and lower extremity pain: a systematic review. Pain Physician 2009;12:163-188.
Research
10. Carragee EJ, et al “Clinical outcomes after lumbar discectomy for sciatica: The effects of fragment types and annular competence” J Bone Joint Surg Am – 2003; 85(1):102-108
11. McMorland G et al.Manipulation or microdiskectomy for sciatica? A prospective randomized clinical study. Journal of Manipulative & Physiological Therapeutics 2010; 33: 576-584.
I am the patient of l4l5 disc slip since 3 year..I had gone to the hospital many times in Nepal as well as India for this purpose…I fell relax for nearly for 3 month after my treatment..after that again I am having pain…I can’t study due the pain for long time..my pain is continuous burning like sensation at lower back..I m doing exercise at the gap of 1,2 days regularly…n using hot rubber bag before sleeping…but my pain is not decreasing…doctor wht can I do now..I m just 23 now..my parents are worrying abt me..
wht is the better n fast way of this treatment
Author
Thanks for your question Bikram. Why don’t you try these exercises. https://www.bodiempowerment.com/herniated-disc-part-2-the-best-exercises-for-your-herniated-disc/
These exercises can make you worse so they need to be supervised by a health care practitioner. If the pain, numbness or tingling starts go further down the buttock or leg than you are getting worse and must stop the exercises right away.
Hope that helps your disc herniation.
Okk thanks Dr.Ken. Do you suggest for physio again?
Or should I continue with the exercises you have provided?
Author
Try the exercises first than if that doesn’t help than go to a chiropractor or physiotherapist.
Hello do Ken
My mother feel pain in her back before one year and she went to Dr and she give her some medical test then he ask me to do MIR and the result :
There is stable partial collapse with Schmorl node at L1 body and normal marrow signals, denoting old traumatic.
Minimal disc protrusion seen at L1-D12 level
Also minor disc protrusions seen at L3-4 and L5-S1 level
Adequate spinal canal
Please Dr ken tell me what that means , and is that means not good? Because she can’t move properly at home , what is your opinion at this case ,what we have to do
Thanks a lot Dr ken
Author
Thanks for your question Mena. To diagnose a lower back problem you have to do a thorough history and exam. The MRI really has little bearing to the actual pain. In other words MRI often shows things with patient having no problem. Not all the time but often.
A Schmorl node is an indentation of the top of the vertebrae allowing the disc material inside to ooze out causing pressure to decrease in the disc. The disc doesn’t function right. I see it all the time. Most of the time there is no pain at all.
I can’t tell you if her case is serious based on an MRI alone.
Hope that helps her minor protrusion at L3-4.
Hello Dr Ken,
My father has severe pain in his lower back and in left leg starting from thigh to end of leg. Several blood tests are performed including CRP, PTH Vit-D 25OH and ESR with resultant value as CRP-29.40, PTH-73.30, Vit-D-33.60 and ESR-26.
A MRI LS is also done on the same day (when blood test are done) and the MRI report says:
MRI LUMBOSACRAL SPINE
Sagittal T1 & T2W FSE, axial T1 & T2W FSE through IV discs, stacked T2W axial and coronal STIR sequences.
Vertebral bodies show normal height and alignment. Degenerative changes with marginal osteophytes and endplate changes are seen. Two ovoid lesions appearing hyperintense on T1 & T2W sequences are seen in L2 vertebral body and a similar lesion is seen in L3 vertebral body. All measure < 12 mm in size and are suggestive of haemangiomas.
L1-2 IV disc shows mild desiccation with normal outlines.
L2-3 IV disc shows mild desiccation with diffuse bulge encroaching on neural foramina bilaterally.
L 3-4 IV disc shows mild desiccation with diffuse bulge indenting thecal sac and encroaching on neural foramina bilaterally. Associated thickening of ligamentum flavum and facet arthropathy are present with spinal canal stenosis.
L 4-5 IV disc shows mild desiccation with an annular tear and a diffuse bulge indenting thecal sac and obliterating the neural foramina bilaterally. Associated mild thickening of ligamentum flavum and facet arthropathy is seen with spinal canal stenosis.
L5-S1 IV disc shows mild desiccation with an annular tear.
The conus medullaris appears normal and terminates at L1 level.
The sacro-iliac joints appear unremarkable.
Impression:
Diffuse disc bulge at multiple levels with spinal canal stenosis at L3-4 & 4-5 levels.
Other findings as detailed above.
Can you pls help me to understand the reason of this pain in simple lay man's words as to what is causing problem and why along with suggestive action to get away from this pain.
thanks in advance.
Amit
Author
Thanks for your question Amit. You tell me great details about the MRI but almost nothing about your father’s symptoms besides back pain and leg pain. The symptoms or history of the problem is almost always more important. Tell me how it happened. In detail does sitting make it worse, standing, walking, lying down, morning time, evening, as the day goes on, being still, moving. What makes it better referring to the list I just mentioned above. Does coughing make it worse, Do he have bowel and bladder issues when the back hurts. Is there foot drop? Is the problem constant in the back, thigh, leg and does it go to the toes. When does it do that. Is he getting worse, better or staying the same. What caused the problem initially.
When you have answered all the questions I may be able to help your father’s possible disc herniation.
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Dear sir,my self pawan from india,my age 27 yr.i have tingling and numbness in my hand fingers and when i touch something then symptoms increase. This situation does not occur daily but 4 to 5 days.and some time i feel palm joint pain.this problem occurs during evening and i feel comfortable after sleeping and when i wake up.i have taken ibu para tablet,gabapentine 300 ,mecobalemin since 4 months.but i m not feeling better.in addition i have pain in back side L4 to S1 and when i bend forward and again straight and stand up more than 10 minutes then pain increase.i done x ray for back region but no abnormallity detected.plz give me possible opinion and treatment.fhanks
Author
Thanks for your question Pawan. You may have carpal tunnel syndrome or entrapment of nerve at the elbow, shoulder (brachial plexus) or the neck. You need to find the best chiropractor or best physiotherapist in your area to take care of your pain.
Hope that helps your pain.
Hello Dr. Ken,
i just read your article. Lemme just tell you, a brilliant way to explain the problem.
I myself have weird sensations and pain in my lower left leg and knee. Unfortunately for me, I have got Grade I/II horizontal tear involving posterior horn and posterior junctional zone of medial meniscus in my knee and in my spine, i have got
1) mild straightening of lumbar spine with intact vertebral alignment, likely due to muscle spasm.
2) mild diffuse annular bulges at L4-5 and L5-S1 levels- indenting the thecal sac and no obvious bilateral neural foramina/lateral recess compromise.
Could you care to explain the severity of my problem? Will I be able to get fine with regular exercises or this is going to affect me my whole life?
Author
Thanks for your question Swati. Like the MRI says it’s mild. It’s possible your left leg pain is due to your lower back and not your knee problem. From the little that you told me that’s a good possibility. Most people get on fine with an MRI of the lower back lie that, as long as you do the right exercises. Also a good chiropractor or physiotherapist can give you the right exercises for the knee.
Hope that helps your disc bulges.
Hi Doctor Ken. Hope you doing well.
I was diagnosed with slip disc in November 2015 and had asked you couple of questions regarding the same. At first I had pain in the left leg. It was excruciating. During this period pain is the right was not much. If I have to rate it’s anywhere between 3-5.I started with physio back then and continued for a month. I have 0% pain in my left leg now. To furthermore, Back then when I used to bend I had excruciating pain in my both buttocks down till the calf. Now I do not face this problem.
But I have nerve pain on my right leg. Whenever I try leg extension for first four try it hurts really bad. I’m also having bad calf pain if I sit for more then half and hour . This is on the right leg.While walking in the morning I have buttock pain but not during the day.
MRI result is protrusion of L45 disc resulting in nerve pinch.
Will I ever be able to play soccer and continue gyming????
Why do I still have pain while sitting??
Author
Thanks for your question Ferdinand. First, the disc has shifted to the right side from the left. That is a common thing to happen. Discs are mobile so they often switch sides. It sounds like the physio wasn’t that effective as it’s now March and you have pain in the other leg. Going from one leg to the other does not make you better.
Given the right treatment you should be able to get back to playing soccer but would have to avoid heavy squats, no deadlifts, bent over rows and leg press in either position. You can do leg press if you put a rolled up towel behind your back. Sitting, you have to put the arch in your lower back by leaning back in your chair. If your chair doesn’t have enough support than you need to buy a lumbar support roll.
Hope that helps your disc herniation.
Hello Dr.Ken,
My daughter is 15 years old and has severe back pain for the last 4 months. She had several physical therapy, nothing worked. Her Ortho suggested to take MRI, MRI report shows that she has
“Moderate broad based disc protrusion with annular tear that extends to the left lateral recess and left neural foramen. There is a mild to moderate canal stenosis. Left lateral recess stenosis. Minimal effacement of nerver roots extending to the left L5-S1 foramen.”
What does it mean? Her Ortho suggested to take Epidural Steroid injection and told that the bulge will cure by itself over the period. She has a severe back pain. I am really concerned about herniated disc at this age. Will Epidual help her? Can she live pain free for the rest of her life? Thanks in advance for your advise.
Author
Thanks for your question Maya. The epidural may help if it’s related to inflammation. Initially there is inflammation but that usually dies down after a few days. There may still be some in which it will help some but certainly not cure her. The problem is that most people continually aggravate their problem by everyday living, like sitting on the sofa, putting on socks, shoes, washing the face going to the bathroom (sitting), sitting and studying or working etc…….
The MRI means that her disc has a tear allowing the inside jelly like substance called the nucleus to push out and pinch on the nerve.
I would recommend trying another person like a another reputable physiotherapist or chiropractor. Remember though if they don’t know what they are doing they can make the problem worse. It is up to you to pick the right person.
Hope that helps your daughter’s disc herniation.
Hello Dr. Ken,
My spouse(female) had been suffering from terrible pain in the lower back from some time, so we went to see a neurologist and were advised to get her MRI L.S.Spine done.
The result of reports highlighted the following:
1. Partially dessicated L4/5 and L5/S1 intervertebral discs with mild posterocentral disc bulge leading to thecal sac indentation at same discal levels with bilateral exiting nerve roots indentation.
2. Both spinal canal AP diameter at mid vertebral bodies and at discal levels is as follows:
L1- 14.0 mm L1/2- 14.5 mm
L2- 14.0 mm L2/3- 13.0 mm
L3- 14.0 mm L3/4- 12.0 mm
L4- 13.0 mm L4/5- 09.5 mm
L5- 13.0 mm L5/S1- 09.5 mm
Please advise what to be done.
Author
Thanks for your question Kartik. I can’t advise you based only on a MRI. You haven’t given any symptoms in detail. Write at least a paragraph about symptoms.
Hope that helps your disc herniation.
Hello doc, I am Shobha. I met with an accident around 10 years ago n since from then i am having problem of slip disc. The pain has increased a lot in this year. According to my recent MRI reports i have loss of lordosis, posterior peridiscal osteophytes at c5-6 c6-7 intending thecal sac, diffuse bulge of c6-7 disc causing mild canal stenosis. Early disc bulge at l4-5 intending thecal sac.
It pains very badly in left s8de of ny whole body starting frok neck to toe. I always have a swelling on neck n left side shoulder.
Plz tell me what should i do ?
Hi sir!
My name is anil.. Am suffering from lower back pain last two years.. I was gone for MRI in date
10 -10 2015.. In that report L3-L4,L4-L5AL and L5- S1 mild bulging what treatment I required sir please tel me…
Author
Thanks for your question Anil. I cannot make recommendations based on an MRI. Would you want your medical doctor to make recommendations simply based on a MRI? The problem with this is there is almost no “normal” or perfect MRI. If you are 30 years of age there are likely to be a few things wrong yet not of them cause pain.
In other words an MRI is not a diagnosis. A proper exam and history make the diagnosis. The MRI is but a tool in the wrong doctor will give the wrong diagnosis and thus the wrong treatment.
Hope that helps your possible slipped disc.
Hi Doctor,
I am 35 Years Male and suffering severe back pain since 4 years, but able to manage my daily tasks with that pain only. Recently i took MRI as per doctor suggestion, as per them they are suggesting to do better exercies everyday. Please find below message in the MRI Report.
“At L4-L5: DIffuse disc bulge indenting over the anterior thecal sac causing mild-to-moderate bilateral neural forminal stenosis (Right > Left) and mild spinal canal stenosis. Posterior annular tear. Bilateral ligamentum flavum and facet.”
“At L5-S1: Diffuse disc bulge indenting over the anterior thecal sac causing moderate left neural foraminal stenosis and mild spinal canal stenosis. Bilateral ligamentum flavum and facet hypertrophy. Compressions over traversing S1 nerve root”
Please help me how to reduce and resolve this back pain
Thanks
Satish
Author
Thanks for your question. https://www.bodiempowerment.com/herniated-disc-part-2-the-best-exercises-for-your-herniated-disc/
You should do these exercises. However if the syptoms including pain, numbness, tingling or pain goes further down into your buttock or leg than where it was previously than you should stop the exercises as you are getting worse. These exercises should be supervised by a health professional.
Hello Dr. Ken,
i am 40 years old and recently i was diagnosed with “L5-S1 Right paracentral disc extrusion with cranial migration measuring 7mm thick,14 mm lenghth, narrowing of the lateral recess with impengement of nerve root” and i was advised to undergo :L5-S1PARTIAL LAMINACTOMY, DISCECTOMY,FORAMINOTOMY surgeries, but i have opted out for surgery as it was above my budget and need to save some more money and then opt for surgery, kindly advise.
Author
Thanks for your question Ravi. If it was an emergency your surgeon would have told you so. Assuming your surgeon is correct that your case is not an emergency most extrusions will start to get better about the 6 months mark. Most of them will like be aggravated by exercises so I will not advise any here.
Hope that helps your disc herniation.
hi, Dr. ken
i m a powerlifter from India , i m having hip pain from nearly 2 months, consulted a orthologist , he suggested me to a mri, i mir report was protruded l4 l5 disc causing compression on theca and lateral recess .
l1- 1.36cm
l2-1.26cm
l3-1.23cm
l4-0.98cm
l5-1.03
i m having serious pain in left butt to hamstring and slightly in calf .
my question is can i be able do powerlifting after 2 to 3 months of and medication …….
Author
Thanks for your question Chaitanya. You need the right treatment or exercises to get better. Try these exercises. https://www.bodiempowerment.com/herniated-disc-part-2-the-best-exercises-for-your-herniated-disc/
If the exercises increase your pain or give you symptoms further down the leg like numbness, tingling or pain than you should stop the exercises. These exercises should be supervised by a health professional.
Hope that helps your disc herniation.
thanks sir
Author
You are welcome Chaitanya
Hello Doctor Ken it is me again. I just received the results of my MRI and it turns out I have an L5/S1 4mm central to paracentral focal disc protrusion.. Pretty nervous and am not entirely sure what to do at this point. My structure is still off and I don’t know if chiropractic care is the way to go. Can you explain to me how bad my condition is and if it’s even possible to fix something like this? Do you think an inversion table could help me take off some of the pressure? Any advice, tips, or ideas on the best way to go about this would mean a lot.
Thank you, Eric
Author
Thanks for your question Eric. It’s almost normal Eric. Many people have disc herniations and many of them with no pains at all. In fact 30 % of 30 years old have disc herniations. Some worse with no pain. A good chiropractor can certainly help and a good physiotherapist can certainly help. It’s not really the title but the person. So you should find a chiropractor or physio with a good reputation. Look for someone someone with lots of good reviews that come up on many different sites. It doesn’t guarantee you but the likelihood will be higher.
Your condition isn’t that bad and certainly not surgical. It’s something any good health professional can take care of whether they are a chiropractor or physiotherapist. Inversion table may help but also may aggravate the situation.
Hope that helps your disc herniation.
Hello Doctor,
My younger brother who is 29 years old started having severe pain radiating in his left leg for about 4 weeks ago. It would start from his buttock, thigh and all of his left leg. He would describe the pain as electric shock and sometimes tingling of needles including numbness in his leg. He was hospitalized for a week and put on static traction on both of his legs after he reported acute pain and couldn’t even stand or sit or walk. We visited ortho as well as neuro and we are seeing somewhat different advices on treatment . One would recommend an immediate surgery then other would prescribe medicines for a month followed by an epidural injection and then also if no relief going for surgery.
His MRI reads as below:
– Mild loss of lumbar lordosis.
– L4/5 and L5/S1 inter vertebral discs are dessicated.
– At L4/5 level mild diffuse disc bulge with mild ligamentum flavum thickening is seen causing mild indentation over thecal sac with mild compromise of bilateral lateral recess and exit foramina.
– At L5/S1 level diffuse disc bulge with postero central disc protrusion and mild ligamentum flavum thickening are seen causing indentation over thecal sac without mild compromise of lateral recess and exit foramina.
Right now he is on medicines, daily phsiotherapy and taking bed rest most of the time as all of the doctors so far suggested him a complete bed rest for a month. His pain these days is not as severe as he had 4 weeks ago but he mostly has pain below the knee on the backside till the toe. Please suggest if we should continue to have him take rest for a month and continue this conservative treatment ?
He doesn’t so far have any problems in pee and poo which is one of the good signs I read through from your article and comments to others here but I also read through your comments that one should look for surgery if leg pain is worse than lower back pain and he is having the main problem with leg pain only.
Looking for your valuable suggestions. Thank you.
Author
Thanks for your question Madhur. While having more leg pain especially if it goes down into the toes is troubling it usually means that there is an extrusion. However your MRI doesn’t indicate this.
At no time you should have bed rest. It looks like the doctors in your country are learning outdated material. Bed rest has been proven to be more harmful except in the most extreme cases which your brother’s case is not. Even then you only have maximum two day bed rest.
Also if you look at the MRI there is no need for surgery but since the history doesn’t correlate with the MRI you need to get someone that does a more thorough exam. I really don’t have a lot of confidence in your doctors when they recommend bed rest. Also surgery is very questionable. Ask them why they would do surgery especially when microdiscectomy surgery has only benefitted people with bulges over 8mm. Your MRI does not show this.
Hope that helps your brother’s disc herniation.
I have pain in left hiparea travelling downward. Generally onset is morning when I get from bed. After some movement pain reduces. Pain starts mostly when I get up from bed after lying for sometime. I have pain also when turning sides On bed.
Di had pain in my left hip area raditing down keg 2 yrs back went to see doctor he gave me Neuro pain killer n. Pain went away after 5 days medication.
then now I again had pain he told me for mri I did one reports I produced earlier msg.
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Thanks for your question Kapilgodara. You need to answer if the following makes your worse, better or no effect.
Sitting, standing, walking, rising from sitting, lying down, morning, evening.
Also what caused your pain? Does coughing or sneezing bother your pain? Are you getting worse better or same over the past year? Have you been treated for lower back pain before? What treatment did you get if you had treatment? Was it helpful?
Make sure you answer each of the questions.
I have pain in hip region left side radiating towards leg upto knee. Pain is someTimes so stong that I cant even stand.
got mri done n results are
l4-5 mild disc bulging is seen with hypertrophied facet joints causing mild identation of. Lateral recesses.
l4-5 Ap 1.0 cm, td 1.9 cm cross section area 1.90
Hello Dr ken I have small doubt. Is this disc herniation needs a surgery? To proper recovery? Do you recommend this?
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Thanks for your question Kishore. You always do conservative therapy first unless you have cauda equina syndrome or you have progressive neurological problems or drop foot that hasn’t gotten better in 6 weeks.
Hope that helps your disc herniation.
I had pain in hip raditing to leg. I got mri done.
results are
at l4-5 mild disc bulging is seen with hypertrophied facet joints causingbmild identation of lateral reccesses.
l4-5 ap 1.0 cm td 1.9 cm cross section area 1.90
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Thanks for your question Kapilgodara. I cannot answer your question as it would be irresponsible to. You need to give your more detailed history of your symptoms.
Hope you understand that You need to be detailed to give any recommendations about disc herniations or any other diagnosis.